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    [QUOTE=Tom Gordon;31010]The Chatwood records at The History of Locks Museum are a revelation!

    There were also a number of safes which never showed up in any of the sales catalogues which I own – homesafes and wallsafes (by Chatwood rather than the Chatwood Milner wallsafes) and sawdust safes (right up to WW2).


    Tom, hoping to hear a lot more from these records in the future. As regards these mysterious home safes, all I can suggest is the Texagen, the little black all concrete cast bodied safe with a continuous hinge plus a dummy on the other side. It had a white plastic handle and escutcheon and the front face of the body was slightly tapered. Sorry but no other illustrations.

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ID:	21316 I knew of a larger version which was constructed on the same principal and which may have been the Household. I also learned that Chatwood made a special safe for the Times Furnishing Company before the war which may in fact be the same safe.

    I think I may have mentioned this before but have you any knowledge of the Citadel Safe as below. I seem to recollect but cannot substantiate that when Samuel Chatwood and his son relinquished their seats on the Board in 1907 they setup a separate company as shown below, but who was G Chatwood?

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ID:	21317 Look forward to hearing if you can throw any light on this.

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    [QUOTE=safeman;31077]
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Gordon View Post
    The Chatwood records at The History of Locks Museum are a revelation!

    There were also a number of safes which never showed up in any of the sales catalogues which I own – homesafes and wallsafes (by Chatwood rather than the Chatwood Milner wallsafes) and sawdust safes (right up to WW2).


    Tom, hoping to hear a lot more from these records in the future. As regards these mysterious home safes, all I can suggest is the Texagen, the little black all concrete cast bodied safe with a continuous hinge plus a dummy on the other side. It had a white plastic handle and escutcheon and the front face of the body was slightly tapered. Sorry but no other illustrations.

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ID:	21316 I knew of a larger version which was constructed on the same principal and which may have been the Household. I also learned that Chatwood made a special safe for the Times Furnishing Company before the war which may in fact be the same safe.

    I think I may have mentioned this before but have you any knowledge of the Citadel Safe as below. I seem to recollect but cannot substantiate that when Samuel Chatwood and his son relinquished their seats on the Board in 1907 they setup a separate company as shown below, but who was G Chatwood?

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ID:	21317 Look forward to hearing if you can throw any light on this.
    I do look forward to finding some of these smaller safes sometime and they sold quite a few!
    when I am looking through the directors minutes, I will keep an eye open for how they dealt with a Chatwood in competition.
    I would be surprised if the Texagen was the same as the “Household” because That wouldn’t be a nickname like the “bomb” and so should show up separately in the company records.

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