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14-02-19, 04:46 AM #1
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Ratner used to make a triple lock banker, if memory serves me correctly.
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15-02-19, 05:22 PM #2
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Also List 4 and List 5 Milners made with 3 keylocks, but haven't got any photos.
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15-02-19, 08:49 PM #3
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Originally Posted by Huw Eastwood
Here's a couple of Milner List 5's quite a few years apart. Don't know about the earlier models but the 1920 versions had 3 fantail locks which provided for 3 keyholders plus a Master Key.
The Ratner, missing an escutcheon the lower keylock, employed the Letter Lock as the servo for shutters for the two keylocks. Also available with just 3 keylocks.
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15-02-19, 09:39 PM #4
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Great thanks for posting these safeman, I now remember seeing the Milners over on your website. Distinctive handwheels they fitted on those big Ratners with the spiralled spokes.
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16-02-19, 05:54 PM #5
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Milner's safe 3 keys.
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17-02-19, 06:50 AM #6
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How did the lock support a master key ? Originally Posted by safeman
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17-02-19, 01:04 PM #7
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Originally Posted by oldlock
Sorry Oldlock, I should have referred to the locks by their proper name which
reads "Milner's seven-lever, triple stump, unpickable locks, duplicate keys for each lock
and, if desired, a master key to pass the whole".
The key bits were stamped A,B and C and the master was so stamped on the bow.
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17-02-19, 03:55 PM #8
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Maybe with extra cuts in the levers for the master key? Originally Posted by oldlock
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17-02-19, 11:05 PM #9
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Thats fine - I was thinking I had been missing something for years about the standard model of lock that we all know.
Anyone ever seen one ?
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18-02-19, 05:02 PM #10
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Originally Posted by oldlock
Oldlock, I am very familiar with this lock in it's exposed lever form which was fitted to the Clydesdale Bank List 5 Branch Bank safes which they wished to make explosive resistant by the retro-fitting of automatic relockers in the 1950's.
This involved brazing a tail piece to the rear end of the bolt of the top lock and connecting it upwards by a loose wire to a Ratnermatic type of device well above the lock and out of harms way.
This was done in-situ at the branches which greatly increased my local history knowledge of the more remote parts of Scotland over many months.
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