Philips and Son Safe

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Hello All,

I have this old safe which has 'Philips and Son' 'Manchester' 'Thistle Safe'.

I am intrested in knowing more about it. If you have any info it would be much appreciated. I have searched the forum and seen two articles with similar safes.

I have also seen many 'Philips and Son Birmingham' safes, is this the same manufacturer as 'Philips and Son Manchester'?

Wondering the rough date of manufacture?


Looking at the safe the heaviest part is the door which is around 8mm thick steel plate. The main body of the safe is relativley light, seems to be made from an inner and outer skin of thin gauge steel.

I imagine that between the two skins is a fire resistant material?

If so would this be gypsum, perlite or asbestos or something else?

Would this have been a low end safe when new? As the steel work seems a bit thin.



Thank you

Kind Regards,