Help identifying Milner Safe please

[Andrew Worthington]

We picked this up the other day, my best guess based on similar construction banded safes with the same escutcheon and makers plate is Victorian era circa 1875-1890?


What has me intrigued is that every image I can find for this safe that's looks almost identical - except the lock and handle are always the opposite way around.



Safes in good order, just has issues with lock, hinges are in good order so determining if its worth refurbishing and if its a quick lick of paint and lock repair or a refurbish job.

[safeman]

We picked this up the other day, my best guess based on similar construction banded safes with the same escutcheon and makers plate is Victorian era circa 1875-1890?


What has me intrigued is that every image I can find for this safe that's looks almost identical - except the lock and handle are always the opposite way around.



Safes in good order, just has issues with lock, hinges are in good order so determining if its worth refurbishing and if its a quick lick of paint and lock repair or a refurbish job.

Andrew - this appears to be a List 3 but it had many changes in it's lifetime from about 1861. Square bodies of wrought iron, metal bands to secure plate joints. The boltwork mechanism was housed in a framed up lockcase bolted to the back of the door with fire-resisting chamber bolted on top of that. Rectangular bolts. The body plate however was only 1/4".

By the turn of the Century the bodies were 4-corner bent and the lockwork considerably strengthened by a full lockcase of 1/2" angle iron and round bolts.

With each change the boltwork could also have changed as would the position of the lock.

A picture of the back of the door would help.

..... Regards , John.
Regards ..... John.


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[Andrew Worthington]

A picture of the back of the door would help.
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Here you go John, thanks for your time.

[safeman]

Here you go John, thanks for your time.

I thought I'd already replied to this but cannot find it!

It was only to remark on the fact that this is a PLATE Safe without fire-resistant lining. PLATE refers to Silver Plate as would be stored in a Butler's Pantry but any non-inflamables such as jewellery or watches.

John.

[Andrew Worthington]

...again, thanks for taking the time to respond John.

Milner List 3 got (only a few) results/matches from google and that's looks to be the one.

Sadly I don't think its worth preserving/restoring as its just a bit to big for the domestics second hand safe market - that will pay the sort of money it would command for the restoration work.

Regards

A

[safeman]

...again, thanks for taking the time to respond John.

Milner List 3 got (only a few) results/matches from google and that's looks to be the one.

Sadly I don't think its worth preserving/restoring as its just a bit to big for the domestics second hand safe market - that will pay the sort of money it would command for the restoration work.

Regards

A

Pleased to have been of a little help

John......