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    I have seen a John Tann safe plate fom 117 newgate st, with 2 dragons on the crest, rather than the lion and horse / unicorn one i normally see, is this a kosher plate or a knock off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Stephenson View Post
    I have seen a John Tann safe plate fom 117 newgate st, with 2 dragons on the crest, rather than the lion and horse / unicorn one i normally see, is this a kosher plate or a knock off?
    This will be an Excelsior Quality. I suppose this falls into the area where some makers compete to see who can offer the cheapest safe. The attached is Bill Stanton's detailed description of the safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeman View Post
    This will be an Excelsior Quality. I suppose this falls into the area where some makers compete to see who can offer the cheapest safe. The attached is Bill Stanton's detailed description of the safe.

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    Here's an example. Tokens were traded like Green Stamps and here is an example found when scavenging the Thames shore. They offer a Tann safe for £5. Note: Not John Tann but R.Tann, Defiance Safes.

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    many thanks to all for the info, much appreciated.

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    cheers John, very interesting, I am now looking for info on Excelsior quality safes, will post up anything I find. Here is the plate in question
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails tann dragon plate 1.jpg   tann dragon plate 2.jpg   tann dragon plate.jpg  

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    Default Tann Badge/plate

    Acording to the late Mike Fincher from his notes for this artefact "with City of London crest"

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    Default London Excelsior safe plate.

    London Excelsior safe plate. No Manufacturer name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syd Waterman View Post
    London Excelsior safe plate. No Manufacturer name.
    John Tann from 1913.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Stephenson View Post
    cheers John, very interesting, I am now looking for info on Excelsior quality safes, will post up anything I find. Here is the plate in question
    To help start your search here's one or two examples from my Gallery.

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    cheers Syd

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