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    Default German safe manufacturers

    Hi, a time ago I made a list of German Safe manufacturers.
    Could all you experts complete the list?

    Ostertag, Aalen
    August Brebeck, Barmen
    S.J. Arnheim, Berlin
    C. Brandes, Berlin
    Walter Burmeister, Berlin
    Fabian, Berlin
    Franz Jäger, Berlin
    Panzer AG, Berlin
    Seifert, Berlin
    F.E. Baum, Chemnitz
    A. Effenberger, Coln
    R. Hessel, Dresden
    Carl Richter, Dresden
    Pohlschröder & Co, Dortmund
    Peter Adolphs, Dusseldorf
    Franz Garny, Frankfurt
    Hammeran, Frankfurt
    Bernh. Löffler, Frankfurt a/M
    Anton Kern, Gera
    Rudolf Speck, Halle
    H.C.E. Eggers & Co, Hamburg
    Bode-Panzer, Hannover-Berlin-Hamburg
    F. Schmidt, Hamburg
    G. Verclas, Hannover
    Müller Safe, Herborn
    M. Gaul, Köln
    Carl Kastner, Leipzig
    R. Thümmel , Leipzig
    Leopold Walther, Leipzig
    L. Härtel, Limbach
    Grohmann, Luckenwalde
    Consentius, Magdenburg
    J.P. Petzold, Magdenburg
    Purcel, Magdenburg
    Sommermeyer, Magdeburg
    Simon, Nürnberg
    Christian Bachmann, Munchen
    Franz Leicher, Munchen
    Gümbel, Siegbach
    Carl Ade, Stuttgart
    Goetz & Co, Stuttgart
    Wilhelm Rupp & sohn, Ulm
    W. Philippi, Wiesbaden
    P. Sirch & sohn, Würzburg
    Willibald Jacob, Zwickau
    Cerberus
    Söflinger
    Wertheim
    Lampertz
    Sistec
    Burg-Wachter





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    On Bruckner & Raum's website is a list of German safe manufacturers. As it is not allowed to post links you have to search yourself.

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    Haven't heard of the majority of them, but not seeing Garny of Frankfort. Oops just found it.

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    Wow that’s quite a list, only familiar with 11 of them, and actually encountered safes from only the very last 4 on your list here in the uk. Don’t mention grade V sistec’s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cepasaccus View Post
    On Bruckner & Raum's website is a list of German safe manufacturers. As it is not allowed to post links you have to search yourself.
    I couldn’t see Brucks - which page is it on?

    other manufacturers plaques which I have in my collection:-
    m fabian Berlin
    p Fabian Berlin
    E kuchenmeister frankfurt
    Carl Herman nurnberg
    g lindener Berlin c
    a Elsner Berlin linden str 94
    heini luders Braun schneig
    herm Krause Berlin
    cl kopper berlin
    j kotters berlin
    tresorstahl Berlin-reinickendorf
    Franz Purcel magdeburgh
    C rob drechsler and Wagner herthau b cheminitz
    pohl schroder Dortmund

    Fr Rahn Berlin
    verlohr
    braune & Roth Leipzig
    Otto Gabriel Dresden a
    schiffers Mannheim
    cl Coppen Berlin sw
    stacke Aachen
    otto Meyer berlin
    e bernstein Berlin c
    Julius Schuler Hamburg

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    I am not sure the author of this list will be amused by copying his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cepasaccus View Post
    I am not sure the author of this list will be amused by copying his work.
    I did a big part of the list myself and Tom gave me some more names.
    Furthermore, I have not seen anything about copy rights

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    1) The third line on the pages is "Copyright B&R Tresortechnik"
    2) It would not be necessary to put a copyright message on a piece of work. It is copyrighted by default in Europe.
    3) Databases are copyrighted even so each single entry might not be.
    4) It is quite rude to just copy something without even MENTIONING the author!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cepasaccus View Post
    1) The third line on the pages is "Copyright B&R Tresortechnik"
    2) It would not be necessary to put a copyright message on a piece of work. It is copyrighted by default in Europe.
    3) Databases are copyrighted even so each single entry might not be.
    4) It is quite rude to just copy something without even MENTIONING the author!
    Yes very interesting.......now safes, great aren't they

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    When I started this tread, I already told you all that I made a list of German safe and vault manufacturers. I put in a lot of time and effort to make that list.
    Thanks to the help of another forum member, I was able to add a few more names.
    While I was still searching, another member told me that a list could be found on a particular site. I have indeed found it and of course a number of names that I had were also on it.I typed 70% of this list manually before I found out that there was an easier way to copy parts from the list.
    When I placed the list here, the informant came up with the comment that I had just copied everything and did not take copyrights into account.It was never my intention to just ignore rules. If anyone feels insulted, I hereby apologize! The source was: Bruckner & Raum Tresortechinik Germany.

    Then the next issue ... is a list of manufacturers a secret?
    This is important history and I am sure it will not be misused in this forum group either.
    In fact, it is exactly in the right place here!

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