Chubb two part plaque

[Warren63]

I’ve acquired this new Chubb plaque and didn’t realise until I stripped and polished it that it’s actually had the warrant badge added separately. It’s a pressed & cast brass. The lion and unicorn are cast brass and added by three tiny brass rivets to the reverse of the plaque. Other than the versions with the sliding escutcheon covers this is the first plaque I’ve came across made of separate parts brought together.

[Tom Gordon]

I’ve acquired this new Chubb plaque and didn’t realise until I stripped and polished it that it’s actually had the warrant badge added separately. It’s a pressed & cast brass. The lion and unicorn are cast brass and added by three tiny brass rivets to the reverse of the plaque. Other than the versions with the sliding escutcheon covers this is the first plaque I’ve came across made of separate parts brought together.

The fancy badge on early Tanns had two vertical spikes at the bottom which went behind the main part of the plainer badge.
It may have denoted different levels of security.
yours is more likely to indicate that the queen had just died and they hadn’t made the new stamp yet

[Warren63]

That’s interesting to know, the queen dying never entered my thoughts for a reason. I can’t say I’ve ever seen (or remember) the early Tann plaque with the spikes your mentioning Tom.

[Tom Gordon]

That’s interesting to know, the queen dying never entered my thoughts for a reason. I can’t say I’ve ever seen (or remember) the early Tann plaque with the spikes your mentioning Tom.

Here is the Tann

[Warren63]

Nice one Tom, I knew you wouldn’t let the side down! You’ve actually solved a mystery for me too. I actually have the royal warrant part , and I thought it was from a European safe and the two lugs slotted into the top of the safe. It’s quite a heavy little piece for its size, I actually thought it was lead at first because of it’s weight, I very nearly stuck it back on eBay as a ‘foreigner’. I also have the oblong section but it’s not original to the other part as it doesn’t have the grooves cut out , and I acquired them separately. I now have a mission trying to find the part with the cut outs. Do the cutouts look like they were cast into the plaque or do you think they were added after casting?

[Tom Gordon]

Nice one Tom, I knew you wouldn’t let the side down! You’ve actually solved a mystery for me too. I actually have the royal warrant part , and I thought it was from a European safe and the two lugs slotted into the top of the safe. It’s quite a heavy little piece for its size, I actually thought it was lead at first because of it’s weight, I very nearly stuck it back on eBay as a ‘foreigner’. I also have the oblong section but it’s not original to the other part as it doesn’t have the grooves cut out , and I acquired them separately. I now have a mission trying to find the part with the cut outs. Do the cutouts look like they were cast into the plaque or do you think they were added after casting?

Added afterwards if that safe required the crest