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  1. #1
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    Hello again. I managed to open the inside of the door that was held by 4 bolts. I opened the lock and took some pictures.

    Dimensions of the safe :

    72cm x 47 x 36 ( H x W x D) in cm (sorry for that)

    This is what I found :
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    Welcome Pierre, unable to add much other than to say yours is a wonderful example and a rarity fitted with such a nice lock as most of the cast iron chests and early upright safes were more basic.

    Many were cast by foundries like Carron's in Scotland who made all manner of products from fireplaces, stoves, post boxes to cannons. They were fitted with (in comparison to yours) very basic box of wards, with the key directly throwing the bolts and a heavy sprung action to retain them in the thrown and withdrawn position, as opposed to the bolts operating off a proper lever lock like yours.

    There's been plenty of discussions on the Carron types on here over the years and there's some good general info on this thread from a while back:
    https://www.antique-locks.com/showth...ghlight=Carron

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks Huw

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    Quite an unusual piece really since most of the New Patent Safe locks were double gated to allow the Detector to be reset should it become tripped.

    It is an early one, it doesn't have a split plate to stop a "Jack-in-the-Box" attack as found on locks from around 1838, I would agree with Brian on the date being between 1835 to 1836, the latter being most likely as Brian stated.

    Can you post a few more pics focusing on the Detector, it looks like the Detector hook has broken off. It might just be the picture though.

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    Default Chubb locks requiring serial number information

    Hi all,

    I have a number of antique Chubb locks for which i would like history information, from the Chubb Company lock registers. Several of the locks have very early numbers. There are a number of lcoks, so i will list them in groups, in several posts. Thank you for your help with this.
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    Default Chubb rim locks requiring serial number information

    And here are rim locks for which I'd like register information. The 6" brass cased lock came from York, the 6" steel cased lock from the South of England, and the 8" steel cased lock from Australia. The latter is new old stock, never having been used.
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    Default Chubb locks requiring serial number information

    More locks to date from the registers. In cases where the serial numbers are difficult to read, i have written them beside the lock, on the paper the lock is sitting on. Thanks.
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    Default Chubb locks requiring serial number information

    And finally, this wee rim lock. It looks as thought the last digit, or perhaps two digits, of the number have worn off. I am wondering if it will still be possible, with the first five, to locate this lock in the registers. We know, at least, that it is from when the company had moved to 128 Queen Victoria street. I think it is likely, therefore, that the lock is at least in the six, maybe even 7 digits.
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    Default Chubb lock requiring serial number information

    This one appears to be the oldest. I'm very interested to know just how early it is. My understanding is that Chubb fitted the round, brass discs to their locks prior to using the more intricate, bell-shaped brass plaque.
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