Chatwood safe

[Loverofold]

Hi,
we have recently come into possession of an old chatwood safe. I never thought I would say this but it is a thing of beauty and I was wondering if anyone can help identify it and give a little more information on value and the safe in general.

Thank you in advance

[safeman]

Hi,
we have recently come into possession of an old chatwood safe. I never thought I would say this but it is a thing of beauty and I was wondering if anyone can help identify it and give a little more information on value and the safe in general.

Thank you in advance

Some more information is required, in particular the letters and numbers stamped on to the top edge of the door plate near the hinge such as shown below with the serial number which should coincide with that painted on the top hinge.
As yours is a very early model this code may be missing. At a guess though it could be a List 2 made 1870'ish but let's see what you find.

[Loverofold]

Some more information is required, in particular the letters and numbers stamped on to the top edge of the door plate near the hinge such as shown below with the serial number which should coincide with that painted on the top hinge.
As yours is a very early model this code may be missing. At a guess though it could be a List 2 made 1870'ish but let's see what you find.

My other half as had a look at the safe but cant find any numbers in the places stated 😕

[safeman]

My other half as had a look at the safe but cant find any numbers in the places stated 😕

It may be that your safe pre-dates the stamping of data on the top of the door but just in case I attach a clearer illustration (arrowed).

If you let us have the serial number as painted on the top hinge this at least will confirm when it was made.

What might also help are photographs of the interior of safe with the door open at 90 degrees to more clearly show the lock case details as photo above left. This might help distinguish whether it's a List 2 or 3.

There's also a possibility that this is a 'plate' safe i.e. without fire-resisting linings intended for the safeguarding of non-inflammable items such as Silver Plate.

[Loverofold]

It may be that your safe pre-dates the stamping of data on the top of the door but just in case I attach a clearer illustration (arrowed).

If you let us have the serial number as painted on the top hinge this at least will confirm when it was made.

What might also help are photographs of the interior of safe with the door open at 90 degrees to more clearly show the lock case details as photo above left. This might help distinguish whether it's a List 2 or 3.

There's also a possibility that this is a 'plate' safe i.e. without fire-resisting linings intended for the safeguarding of non-inflammable items such as Silver Plate.

Hi,
thanks for the pic you sent. We have found some numbers which are 21185, not sure if this helps at all. He's going to forward some more photos later on 😊

[Harrishawk]

A question: is it possible to get to the lock with Chatwood? I can buy a chatwood but no key. Door is open but the lock closed.
Will the back cover of the door come off?

It may be that your safe pre-dates the stamping of data on the top of the door but just in case I attach a clearer illustration (arrowed).

If you let us have the serial number as painted on the top hinge this at least will confirm when it was made.

What might also help are photographs of the interior of safe with the door open at 90 degrees to more clearly show the lock case details as photo above left. This might help distinguish whether it's a List 2 or 3.

There's also a possibility that this is a 'plate' safe i.e. without fire-resisting linings intended for the safeguarding of non-inflammable items such as Silver Plate.

[safeman]

A question: is it possible to get to the lock with Chatwood? I can buy a chatwood but no key. Door is open but the lock closed.
Will the back cover of the door come off?

The chamber containing the fire-resistant composition is set into the angle frame of the lockcase holding the moving bolts and held by countersunk screws at the sides (maybe even top and bottom) These screws will have been concealed by putty filler before painting but should be quite east to reveal.

The keylock inside will simply be bolted on to the backplate of the door inside.