We tried that way initially (since that's what most 3 combination safes do), but it wasn't working. I then contacted two people selling Victor safes that looked very similar to our Victor safe (0-60 dial with no pins on the dial to hold and no handle on the door--this is apparently slightly more rare than the usual dial with pins that Victor safes used), and they both said theirs were "3 combination" safes, but you only really needed to know two of the numbers--the fence drops on the third number. So you turn 3 times to the first number, then go past the second once before stopping on the second number, then turn to the third number and you feel the fence drop, then turn to retract the bolts. Essentially there were 2 wheels and a drive cam in the safe. So this is what we've recently been trying, but now I'm officially running out of things to try! I was hoping someone might have some suggestions. In particular, I am relatively certain the fence is stuck because I can't feel the two contact points that you normally can when moving just the drive cam. However, banging on the door doesn't seem to drop the fence down.