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  1. #1
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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    I have a question regarding flat keys for PTPK padlocks that I hope some of you may be able to answer.
    The Yale PTPK padlocks take the Ilco 1031 flat key that fits the keyhole fairly snuggly.
    I have 2 Sargent PTPK padlocks that I would like to make new keys for.
    I have disassembled them and they are both 5 pin and the keyway is larger in height than the Yale so the 1031 key fits quite loosely. There is a lot of play from top to bottom in the keyway when the key is inserted and the 5th pin is at the slant of the key blank.
    I assume that the 1031 would not be suitable for the sargent padlock so does anyone know which key blank would be the proper one for the sargent padlocks.
    Thanks

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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    The last time I know that Ilco has two differ keys for these PTPK. This one it : ILCO 1239, D/L 639, Taylor T113. The width .285"-7.2mm, Thick .004"-1.0mm. I don't know if this on market or not.....Timothy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    The last time I know that Ilco has two differ keys for these PTPK. This one it : ILCO 1239, D/L 639, Taylor T113. The width .285"-7.2mm, Thick .004"-1.0mm. I don't know if this on market or not.....Timothy.....
    Thanks for the reply Timothy.
    As far as I can see the 1031 and 1239 are the same size.
    The 1031 is nickel silver and the 1239 is flat steel.
    I have a FULTON PTPK padlock made by Slaymaker with the original key that is .330" wide and .055" thick that fits the Sargent keyway nicely so that would be the key blank that I am looking for.

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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    OK! do you have key blank number for it. I just found a web site to get the 1239 but you already has it...https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/locksmith-ilco-1239-flat-steel-blank-1868185104......Timothy......


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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    Just a little more information that I found. Not sure if this the kind of PTPK you have but I'm sure the key blank will fit No. 5559. I know they don't make it any more....Timothy.......
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Sargent PTPK No.BB559.jpg   Sargent PTPK Flat Steel No. 5559 Blank..jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Just a little more information that I found. Not sure if this the kind of PTPK you have but I'm sure the key blank will fit No. 5559. I know they don't make it any more....Timothy.......
    I believe the Sargent 5559 blank is l-o-n-g discontinued but I found an Old Ilco blank that is probably the equivalent, 1248S which is .335" wide x .050" thick; also discontinued but another possibility, see thumb nail attached.

    Pete
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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    Pete
    Where you findthe 1248S Blank at I don't see it in the ILCO Catalog....??..Timothy.....

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    perhaps cut down a flat steel k ey ? i just used my last blank on this sargent. Pete is correct on the blanks and i doubt you will find one. This blank had a 251E on it and i do not know who made them.
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    forgot info
    the 1031 is nickel silver and 1239 is plated steel, these are not wide enough ,but were available from north carolina thru distributor last year .

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    would something like this work ? the stop is very short,and you might have to file the bow near the stop ?
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