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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Pete
    Where you findthe 1248S Blank at I don't see it in the ILCO Catalog....??..Timothy.....
    Timothy, note that I said Old Ilco, can be found in:
    1. 1950 Ilco Cat. 13G, Pg. 30
    2. 1949 Ilco Cat. 12B, Pg. 30
    3. 1947 Ilco Cat. 12A, Pg. 29
    4. 1941 Ilco Cat. 12, Pg. 163
    5. 1936 Ilco Cat. 11, Pg. 64
    6. 1932 Ilco Cat. 10, Pg. 56
    7. 1930 Ilco Cat. 9, Pg. 43

    In 1941 the net price was $4.80 per gross.

    Pete Schifferli

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbonstein View Post
    perhaps cut down a flat steel k ey ? i just used my last blank on this sargent. Pete is correct on the blanks and i doubt you will find one. This blank had a 251E on it and i do not know who made them.
    Nathan, 251E is a Keil number, crosses to 1248 Old Ilco and 2790C Graham all of which are obsolete. Old Ilco 1248 and 1248S are both .335" x .050" but the former is steel while the later is nickel silver. Thus we now have three more possibilities for that old Sargent push padlock blank.

    Pete Schifferli

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    thank you,Sir,i will make a note on these #'s
    thank you Pete

  4. #14
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    Thank you all for your input.
    I was thinking that it might come down to making my own key blank.
    Just need to find a satisfactory blank to start with.

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    Mailed this morning,enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pschiffe View Post
    ... the net price was $4.80 per gross.
    Now that brings back memories! Many of the men I trained under spoke of blanks by the dozen and there were hundreds of boxes of blanks marked that way. I cut many thousands of keys on Graham and Keil blanks.

  7. #17
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    Default Flat keys for PTPK padlock

    Pete
    Thank for information I was looking at the ILCO #60. I may have one at home in box somewhere but don't think going into all that......Timothy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbonstein View Post
    Mailed this morning,enjoy
    I received the key that you sent in the mail yesterday.
    Thank you very much.
    Made a key for one of the five pin sargent locks.
    There is almost no cut on the 5th pin.
    Needed to make the modifications that you suggested and the new key works well.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails sargent1.jpg   sargent2.jpg   sargent3.jpg   sargent key.jpg  

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    Meant to say that there is almost no cut in the 1st pin not the 5th pin.

  10. #20
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    not being a sargent bow made me wonder ? Glad they worked. i seen a pat date of 1912,did not find them until 1936 catalog.
    enjoy.

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