Need Key Blanks For Old Yale Padlock

[Huw Eastwood]

Haven't been over there yet but will have a look when I do. The ones I had in mind were full size although we did have junior Yales i won't know what or what's left until I get time to go and look.

[MrWizard]

Huw

Great thanks. Looking for the small size ones for sure. I don't know what the number would be. These full size ones say RN11 PL maybe the smaller ones are EN11 PL or maybe EN10 PL? The key is a 4 pin but even 5 pin small head would be perfect. The key that works doesn't have the bottom shoulder like the large ones do. I did grab a box of the large ones to be safe they don't slip away to see if they are even the right keyway. If not I can resale them back on ebay or just keep them.

Thanks
Richard

[nathanbonstein]

maybe a yale J,they are v5-6 pin,if it fits then find the 4 pin - 5 pin # ???

[Pschiffe]

Apparently made for Peoples Gas Light & Coke Co., a natural gas utility still in business serving the Chicago, Il area; maybe Old Ilco 997BA, crosses to 18 Keil, 428 Niesen and 2603D Graham all of which are l-o-n-g obsolete? see thumbnail attached.

Pete Schifferli

[Pschiffe]

maybe a yale J,they are v5-6 pin,if it fits then find the 4 pin - 5 pin # ???

Nathan,
J is not a simplex key section but rather the designation for the J-series multiplex family JA, JB, JC, JD, JE, JF, JG, JH & JK with the all-section master as JMK, made in 3, 4, 5 & 6-pin versions; see thumbnail attached

Pete Schifferli

[MrWizard]

Good to know the Old Ilco 997BA number for the Yale PL blank. Thanks for finding that. Still is the full size key with standard large head and blade height. Wondering what the Yale or Ilco number is for the small blank that the head and blade height is the size of like a Yale JA or X10 1/2 blank surprised they made both large and small in the PL keyway. Thinking it might be EN10 PL?

Richard

[Pschiffe]

Good to know the Old Ilco 997BA number for the Yale PL blank. Thanks for finding that. Still is the full size key with standard large head and blade height. Wondering what the Yale or Ilco number is for the small blank that the head and blade height is the size of like a Yale JA or X10 1/2 blank surprised they made both large and small in the PL keyway. Thinking it might be EN10 PL?
Richard

997BA is the small size (.40 dia. plug) key. In theory the Yale nomenclature would be RN10PL (4-pin) but if it is indeed denoted as PL section, it is long obsolete and/or end-user restricted. Note that the RN prefix denotes round bow nickel silver while EN is for the Eaton bow nickel silver which was used when Yale was owned by Eaton Corp. from about 1963 to 1979, but discontinued subsequent to that date under yet another change in ownership.

Pete Schifferli

[MrWizard]

Pete

Thanks for all that clarification. RN = Round Nickel silver 10 being .40 dia plug. Thus RN11 = .50 dia. EN = Eaton Nickel.

Eaton made those never popular offset square head bow that hang crooked on the keyring. I have boxes of them I could never sell. What were they thinking with those.

Richard