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  1. #1
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    Question Trying to I.D. lock...

    Hey all! First, thanks for accepting my join request. I used to collect rare (to me) padlocks. I've since moved on but still have a few I would like to identify.

    Here's one that I can't even find a like item anywhere. It's probably because I'm not searching with the right tag words in the right places but I thought I'd try here.

    I think the photos are clear enough. I don't have any history on it.

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    Any info would be appreciated.

    Thanks much!

    serf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serf View Post
    Hey all! First, thanks for accepting my join request. I used to collect rare (to me) padlocks. I've since moved on but still have a few I would like to identify.
    Here's one that I can't even find a like item anywhere. It's probably because I'm not searching with the right tag words in the right places but I thought I'd try here.
    I think the photos are clear enough. I don't have any history on it.
    Any info would be appreciated.
    Thanks much!
    serf
    I tried checking the Patent No. (192584?) but that is for a stop-cock for flexible tubing from 1877! Enlarged the image but didn't get any better resolution.

    Pete Schifferli

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    Is it possible the patent is not USA, but rather (for example) UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pschiffe View Post
    I tried checking the Patent No. (192584?) but that is for a stop-cock for flexible tubing from 1877! Enlarged the image but didn't get any better resolution.

    Pete Schifferli
    Yeah, I tried a multi-variable search on the number as well...nothing came close. I tried other numbers that "1" as well...that one is kind of blurry.

    Thanks for trying though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylk View Post
    Is it possible the patent is not USA, but rather (for example) UK?
    That could be...didn't lion mix with master at some point? So it might make sense that this isn't American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serf View Post
    Yeah, I tried a multi-variable search on the number as well...nothing came close. I tried other numbers that "1" as well...that one is kind of blurry.

    Thanks for trying though!
    That "1" looks a lot like a "4" when you look closer. The little bit that juts into the "9" next to it.

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    I just tried (US) Design patent D192584 but that wasn't it, and re-issue patent RE192584 which doesn't exist. Do other countries have similar concepts in their patent system that might be worth trying?

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    I haven't seen anybody comment on the fact the escutcheon has been attached crudely with two brass flat-head screws. Does this suggest it is a "fantasy" lock and was never made in regular production? That might explain the failure to find anything via Google searches as well as the seeming crudity of the text. The patent number might be made up.

  9. #9
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    Default Some info learned

    So, I took a better shot with the lock open and on a better background.

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    Google Image search brought me here. A stock photo page. I haven't researched the description yet though.

    "Japanese Chinese Korean Aki Tosa Tansu Chest Kagu Lock & Skeleton Key"

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    I also took off the plate (screws were very easily removed) but no other markings were observed. Keys are numbers to the lock.
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    Hope this helps!


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    Default Trying to I.D. lock...

    I would agree with Wylk. Also I was thinking as China make these lock only if someone else come with a better idea.....Timothy......

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