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  1. #1
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    Default Curious on age of this class E small safe

    Hello all. So glad to have joined this group. Looking forward to many hours learning about old safes and locks. Anyway, I just bought this yesterday for $50 on a local buy/sell site. It measures 18" x 14" tall x 15". Five sides are 1" (25mm) steel and the face and door are 1.5". I love the beefy hardware and bolt system.

    I can't find any serial number list online to date it's manufacture. It uses a Diebold lock and on the body and door are stamped 1404 and a number 1 at some distance away. I would love to read your educated guesses on age and other interesting details.
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    Wow, great find! What is its weight?

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    I used a steel plate calculator and guessed on the lock system and hardware, and arrived at around 430 pounds, or just about 200 kilos. It was no fun to move with just two people.

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    I wish here would be safes like this!

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    Just discovered the relocker works. I was told it was missing. Maybe this helps identify.
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  6. #6
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    Default Mosler

    The safe is made by Mosler for Diebold. The color is olive smooth in the 1940 line of Mosler chests. The lock is one of two used in that series of chest.
    1. KC-1 or the 7030, 7030R. Here is the small style of chest.
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    Enjoy Tim

  7. #7
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    Oh so cute and fluffy!

    Are the bolt going thru from left to right? So when closing the door the bolts are a lot behind the right side and when locking the bolts move to the left?

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    I like those "second bite of the cherry" arrangements for a dead aed. They prevent successful attacks using a preloaded handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cepasaccus View Post
    Oh so cute and fluffy!

    Are the bolt going thru from left to right? So when closing the door the bolts are a lot behind the right side and when locking the bolts move to the left?
    You are correct.

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    Thanks a lot for the information, Tim. It has an antique look that i would have assumed put it in the 100 year old range. Now i know! If you were in the Seattle area I'd buy you a cup of coffee and a doughnut.

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