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  1. #1
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    Default Information about Milner Safe

    Hello,

    I recently bougt an old Milner Safe.
    It is still working properly but I couldnt find any information about it (age, condition etc...)

    One key is original with the number "AD 606" on it.
    On the outside upper right i can read "D 606"
    On the inside upper right i think there is "712", probably a letter before.

    See attached related pictures.

    I would be very glad if anybody had any information concerning this nice piece for me.

    Thank you in advance and best regards

    Andreas
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  2. #2
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    Default Milner List 3.

    Andreas, the safe serial number AD606 would have been made in 1918. Being the last year of World War 1 there were very few safes being made, in fact only 625 in total.
    The stampings on the edge of the body will probably be the body makers mark and the weight of the safe as being
    7 cwts. 1 quarter, and 2 lbs. if your figures are correct for a safe measuring 28"x 22"x 22".

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  3. #3
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    Welcome Andreas nice Milners you got there, great that you got an original key and makes a change to see one with round locking bolts post change from the earlier rectangular bolts.
    You shouldn't have too much trouble finding replacements for the missing brassware, most of it can be found easy enough online.
    Huw

  4. #4
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    Default Milner door furniture.

    For example on Ebay today ref.311991015729

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  5. #5
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    Hello safeman, hello huw,

    thank you very much for your answers! I am very happy with this!

    I cannot find the ebay item...i would be interested, is the number correct?

    Thank you and best regards,

    andreas

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    Default Addendum.

    Andreas, Huw's reply has reminded me that I didn't quite you give the correct catalogue description of your safe.

    It should have read Milner List 3 (Improved Patent) 1915, which covers the fact that this model has now been produced with a four-corner bent body instead of the square body, plus the introduction of round bolts as Huw mentions.

    The greatest security improvement is that instead of the lockcase being bolted on to the back of the door, it now is formed of 'T' bars 3"x 3"x " rivetted to the door plate giving a !" door edge thickness instead of the previous ". This gives much greater protection against the use of wedges and levers. (See attached).

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  7. #7
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    Thank you very much so far...! I now found the ebay offer but unfortunately it wont be shipped to germany.

    best regards

    Andreas

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    BTW that weight equates to 370 Kg.

  9. #9
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    After offloading my safe plates a few years back I think I ended up with one of those left here somewhere. There's a load of variations though so I'd have to check to be sure. Plus, you're missing the door pull, backing rose, and all the brass screws so best to wait for another job lot to come up for sale like safeman posted, and get everything in one go.
    Huw

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    Huw

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