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    Going through some old boxes and turned these up, I suspect the grille gate lock may be a Ratner, but no name on it.
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    this has both Milner and Hobbs names on it;
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    Ratner safe lock with the nice brass rather than steel body, anybody know why they did some like this?
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    Managed to save these from a scrap bin, but unfortunately not complete, parts only, it always amazes me the quality stuff some people with throw away or weigh in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Stephenson View Post
    this has both Milner and Hobbs names on it;
    Thomas Turner pattern detector lock ? Must be from the early period where Hobbs made the locks for Milners ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldlock View Post
    Thomas Turner pattern detector lock ? Must be from the early period where Hobbs made the locks for Milners ?
    Quite a puzzle this Oldlock as this is identical in all respects to the lock supplied to Milner by Turner since the 1840's for his first fire-resisting boxes and was later referred to in adverts as Milner's 6-lever Detector Lock alongside the Hobbs Protector at an additional cost of 10/-.

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ID:	17922 Can't imagine Hobbs having had any part in the manufacture of this fairly crude lock despite the fact their name is stamped on the plate unless they were just middleman until in full production themselves around 1852.

    This Turner lock is quite memorable as it was the first lock I was given to cut new keys to as an apprentice in 1948.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Stephenson View Post
    Ratner safe lock with the nice brass rather than steel body, anybody know why they did some like this?
    Perhaps corrosion resistance? I have seen another lock which deviated from the standard steel body by being made from bronze because of this reason. Maybe for ship safes?

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    I normally see them on safes and strongrooms, not seen one on a ship yet, and would have thought that if it was a corrosion thing then the whole lock would be bronze. But possibly.

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