CHUBB padlock information on markings

[Brian Morland]

This a mock up WHS (Bill Stanton) made in the 60's when he was with Chubb R&D; the Ministry insisted on a anti-pressure device be added once they learned that the lock could be compromised. The design was successful and adopted. They were typically used on mail/diplomat bags. This is artefact number: 595 should anyone wish to see it when visiting the Heritage Rooms.

[Huw Eastwood]

We saw quite a few in the early days used on the diplomat dispatch bags but also used by MoD in applications where they'd use Ava 1k42's. Proper general all rounders-we also saw a few rare all brass, used in explosives magazines where the anti-spark was mandatory.

[macs_07]

We saw quite a few in the early days used on the diplomat dispatch bags but also used by MoD in applications where they'd use Ava 1k42's. Proper general all rounders-we also saw a few rare all brass, used in explosives magazines where the anti-spark was mandatory.

Thanks, Huw, yes they used the AVA padlocks here in Australia on secure bags.
Interesting that they had an all brass versions as well, I will have to keep an eye out for it as well it would be a very pretty lock.

cheers

[Huw Eastwood]

This a mock up WHS (Bill Stanton) made in the 60's when he was with Chubb R&D; the Ministry insisted on a anti-pressure device be added once they learned that the lock could be compromised. The design was successful and adopted. They were typically used on mail/diplomat bags. This is artefact number: 595 should anyone wish to see it when visiting the Heritage Rooms.

Amazing how often Bill Stanton's name pops up- a true legend in the industry. Wasn't he the only person ever entrusted with disassembling and refurbishing the Aubin Trophy in the Late 1960s or early 70s ?

[Brian Morland]

Bill was also responsible for the AVA patent when Chubb bought the company, the small AVA padlock gradualy replaced the anti-pressure padlock for diplomatic mail bags.

Regarding the Aubin trophy WHS was also a keen photographer and took a series of pictures of the individual locks, both assembled and disassembled, as he worked on it. This picture shows one of the tiers.



These pictures are in the Heritage Rooms Archive. We also have the WHS dairys and much other material and would be a good project for a HoLRSG focus Group.

[Brian Morland]

Today the Aubin Trophy is housed in its own security cabinet, (shown in the sidebar - top right of this page), its a bit tired mechnicaly but still works, maybe a focus group if formed might decide on the best way forward.

[safeman]

Bill was also responsible for the AVA patent when Chubb bought the company, the small AVA padlock gradualy replaced the anti-pressure padlock for diplomatic mail bags.

Regarding the Aubin trophy WHS was also a keen photographer and took a series of pictures of the individual locks, both assembled and disassembled, as he worked on it. This picture shows one of the tiers.



These pictures are in the Heritage Rooms Archive. We also have the WHS dairys and much other material and would be a good project for a HoLRSG focus Group.

Bill Stanton with Trophy.

[chubbbramah]

I understood Tommy Watson had a hand in the restoration after Hobbs Hart 'joined' the Chubb Group, presumably not the only person involved. Wish I had talked to Tommy back then, but then I was a green newcomer amongst the experienced pro's meeting in John Oldcorn's shop. Not many of those forty-odd enthusiasts are still around now.

[safeman]

I understood Tommy Watson had a hand in the restoration after Hobbs Hart 'joined' the Chubb Group, presumably not the only person involved. Wish I had talked to Tommy back then, but then I was a green newcomer amongst the experienced pro's meeting in John Oldcorn's shop. Not many of those forty-odd enthusiasts are still around now.

Can't vouch for my memory anymore but I seem to remember that Tommy told me that he had restored the Parautoptic Lock for the Science Museum. In fact I 'almost' remember seeing it written on the card in the display cabinet as well.

[Brian Morland]

It was 'John Holden' Richard. I attended 1 or 2 meetings back in the day (it was a long way from Bournemouth) - there is at least one attendee left who now runs the MLA Heritage Rooms! Tommy restored the lock and made a new key for the Science Museum's Para. Ive not seen anything on him being involved with the Aubin Trophy. I'm thinking maybe we (HoLRSG) should take the Aubin apart and service it.