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    Good find Warren! But, what about the possibility that's it's a Lingham plaque that was fitted on one of the commonest, most generic and non-descript Black Country safes because it'd lost its original one...

    That style of safe could pass with any one of dozens of different names on it.
    Even Cartwight's and S. Withers' bottom of the range offerings looked pretty much the same, hinges, handles etc. You'll see those shield escutcheons plain, also marked Patent, Invoiable Lock etc.

    Only kidding though I'm sure Tom's comments above are correct and it is an example of one, albeit an obscure name from the very bottom end of the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huw Eastwood View Post
    Good find Warren! But, what about the possibility that's it's a Lingham plaque that was fitted on one of the commonest, most generic and non-descript Black Country safes because it'd lost its original one...

    That style of safe could pass with any one of dozens of different names on it.
    Even Cartwight's and S. Withers' bottom of the range offerings looked pretty much the same, hinges, handles etc. You'll see those shield escutcheons plain, also marked Patent, Invoiable Lock etc.

    Only kidding though I'm sure Tom's comments above are correct and it is an example of one, albeit an obscure name from the very bottom end of the market.
    I did actually think that there was a slight chance that it could’ve been possibly added at a later date Huw ,so your wind up didn’t surprise me too much. As I’m in a good mood I’ll settle for my glass being half full this time though mate.

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    There was a company called Safes Ltd. of Barton Street, West Bromwich, which, in 1968 was part of the S. Withers company when it was acquired by the Stratford Safe Co. Withers also had the names of J.Cartwright, Thos.Perry, E.Hipkins, Phillips and Birmingham Safe Company the last of the 40 or so makers in the Midlands.

    I seem to remember that Stratford produced a very cheap version of the Standfast with a 1/4" door plate for the Middle East market which was plainly badged in chrome 'SAFES LTD'.

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    Warren, I resisted the temptation to mention this yesterday but since no one else has commented - here goes.
    Your Lingham plate could be an interesting conversation piece as the words Linghan and Lingam refer to the male organ of generation.
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    I can't imagine that when Safes Ltd decided on this name that they were being cocky, but more likely they wanted to associate the strength of their safe with Lignum Vitae, the strongest of hardwoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeman View Post
    Your Lingham plate could be an interesting conversation piece as the words Linghan and Lingam refer to the male organ of generation.
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    I can't imagine that when Safes Ltd decided on this name that they were being cocky
    nice one safeman, I had a good chuckle at that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeman View Post
    Warren, I resisted the temptation to mention this yesterday but since no one else has commented - here goes.
    Your Lingham plate could be an interesting conversation piece as the words Linghan and Lingam refer to the male organ of generation.
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    I can't imagine that when Safes Ltd decided on this name that they were being cocky, but more likely they wanted to associate the strength of their safe with Lignum Vitae, the strongest of hardwoods.
    I dunno about that Safeman ! Sounds like a load of old balls to me ! (Boom boom)

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    Hi all, I’ve just acquired another version of this plaque. It’s the same as the one I posted a picture of attached to the red safe last week. It’s of far better quality than the original one that I started this post with. It hasn’t been cleaned and retains all its original patina IMHO. Thanks men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren63 View Post
    Hi all, I’ve just acquired another version of this plaque. It’s the same as the one I posted a picture of attached to the red safe last week. It’s of far better quality than the original one that I started this post with. It hasn’t been cleaned and retains all its original patina IMHO. Thanks men.
    It's not the same - it is a much more unusual one.

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