Pillard combo lock

[odinfix]

Thanks for the reply. Here's the dial, where I got the lock details:

[odinfix]

Here is the bolt handle.

[odinfix]

Sorry, that is a decorative top corner detail. The bolt handle pic won't upload. I'll have to lower rez on my phone cam and retake some detail pics of the safe. Meantime, anyone out there fmailiar with / have hands-on experience with these Locks?

Thanks

[David Hovey]

Sorry, that is a decorative top corner detail. The bolt handle pic won't upload. I'll have to lower rez on my phone cam and retake some detail pics of the safe. Meantime, anyone out there fmailiar with / have hands-on experience with these Locks?

Thanks

R4 times to 1st#
L3 times to 2nd#
R2 times to 3rd#
L to stop.

DH

[odinfix]

Thanks for the info David.
I've tried that sequence a couple times this morning, but no dice so far.

My father had written it down:
5xL - 1st #
2xR - 2nd#
1xL - 3rd#

Which obviously wasn't working. I know when I DID get it to open the One time, weeks ago, I was experimenting with # of turns BOTH ways (LRL and RLR) - so it very much COULD have been RLR (as you said) that worked for me that once.

I'm trying, as You advised:
4xR to 1st # (Passing "0" 4x, and stopping on 1st#)
3xL to 2nd# (Passing 1st# 3x, and stopping on 2nd#)
2xR to 3rd# (Passing 2nd# 2x, and stopping on 3rd#)
Slowly turning Dial back to L (Listening for click & feeling for dial stop)

I've also tried / incorporated:
- The above exact sequence reversed (LRLR)
- Doing both of the above sequences while jiggling the door and/or bolt handle while giving the final (drop) dial turn, and also tried shimming the door with folded paper to put slight inward pressure to create a neutral hang, should anything be leaning outward against it from the inside.
- Pre-rotate dial in direction opposite of 1st sequence turn, a minimum of 4 times before starting sequence

No luck so far.

Very frustrating, as I KNOW the numbers work - otherwise it wouldn't have opened once.
I feel like there must be SOMEthing very simple I'm overlooking.

Any ideas what I could be doing wrong, or something I've misread? Does anyone out there have a Pillards No 19 to try / confirm the turn sequence on, etc?

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

[Yankee]

You may a dialing wrong by the looks...

Dial like this:
Left 4 times to your first number.
Right two times past your second number, stoping the third time up.
Left one time past your third number stoping the second time up.
Right slowly until the dial comes to a stop, around 95.

[odinfix]

Thanks Yankee.

I've just tried your sequence as well ( both L-R-L-R and R-L-R-L), but still no joy.

I had previously tried every variation I could think of, had read about, etc (4x3x2x - turn for drop, passing 0 as first ref point, passing the first , then second, third, #'s as their own discrete reference points, both directions, etc), using every variation that I could think of - but still no joy. I'm turning super slow, medium speed, you name it. I make sure the door is hanging neutral, I jiggle the bolt handle,....I've even gotten down to listen with a stethoscope on the door, listening for noises - all to no avail.

I can't for the life of me figure out WHICH variation / sequence I used when I opened it the One time. (And HOW many times I've kicked myself since!!! )

I was hoping someone out there might ideally have one of these locks, and be willing to test / confirm the EXACT sequence for me, (using their own combo & lock, obviously), or have some first hand knowledge thereof.

The lock MAY have something stuck mechanically ( although it seems unlikely that it would have somehow jammed or stuck in the last few weeks, after oh...a hundred years lol..but ..Murphy is strong against me, it seems ) and if I could KNOW the exact sequence for SURE, and HAVE the numbers..I'll be able to test repeatedly to open it...or know for sure it's just beating my head against a very old door lol.

As it is, I'm just scratching my head and more than a bit frustrated. LoL

Anyone out there have one of these (No 19 Pillards) to test?

Thanks again to everyone who's responded so far. Much appreciated.