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  1. #1
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    Default Mosler & Diebold

    Hello, I posted in the new member forum so here's my 2nd post.

    My brother-in-law and I have been looking for a gun safe for each of us. The quality & security of a $1000 box-store gun safe led me to search for more secure, greater cost gun safe. At one point, I was almost ready to spend $4,000 on a new safe. Searching CL was no luck but I came across an ebay auction where one seller had two safes listed and was 80 miles away from me. Long story short, I was the only bidder and won both for next to nothing. Only stipulation was I had to move them & transport, which I accomplished in one day.

    Being new to safes, I would like to know a bit more about my purchases. The tags on the safes don't tell me much in terms of today's safe equivalent.

    The mosler is a double door 75" high, 52" long, 31" wide with a Four hour fire rating, SMNA class A, & a T-20 Tamper resistance rating. Any idea's on it's age? Would this be an equivalent to a TL-15 or TL-30 rated safe?
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    Next up is the Diebold. It has a serial number, a UL rated class 350-4 hour fire rating but no tamper rating.

    Moderators, please adjust if necessary should you not feel these are considered "Antique safes"
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    Older fire resistant equipment, I don't think it is up to even tl15 rating, but then a lot of the modern gun safes are not up to much security wise either, the up side is that hopefully they will give better fire protection (they do have a bit of age to them and generally the fire protection will degrade over the years) for your weapons than your average gun safe would.
    I do not know the US ratings too well, especially the older ratings like t20,but hopefully this will give you some idea.

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    If you want high volume, one option to consider is finding a second hand strongroom door and building it in somewhere. I can't comment on prices in USA but in UK you can find an old strongroom door often for little more than scrap value. Then it is all up to you.

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    T-20 is supposed to be 20 minutes tamper resistant. It is most probably not as secure as a TL-15, but it is also most probably much more secure than a "Residential Security Container" aka gun safe. And even if the insulation has degraded a bit it is most probably still much better than that of the normal US gun safe.

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    Post Diebold safe

    sierradmax,

    The Diebold safe you have is model #4070 which is classified as a U.L. Insulated Record Container. This type of safe would have been used to store/protect records and documents from fire. Being a fire resistive safe and not a burglar safe, it did not carry a TL rating. The safe pictured was manufactured in 1977. Hope you find this information helpful.

    Thanks,
    Nicole

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