Chubb Padlock Help

[Gavin]

Hi.I have this old brass padlock and Was wondering if anyone can tell me how old it is and what would it have been used for...My first thought was a lock for a Railway carriage but to be honest I am not sure.What would be the value of something like this?

[Brian Morland]

Hi Gavin, and welcome to our world. The serial number in the Registers resolves to 7th September 1903. I'm sure members will be able to tell you more, but do advise the exact sizes and if possible its weight.

[Gavin]

Hi Gavin, and welcome to our world. The serial number in the Registers resolves to 7th September 1903. I'm sure members will be able to tell you more, but do advise the exact sizes and if possible its weight.

Hi Brian .Its just short of 15cm and weighs 3.4kg

[Gavin]

Hi.I know nothing about padlocks and would like to ask the members to enlighten me about the padlock that I have.
Its just short of 15cm and weighs 3.4kg.It has the original Key.
I was looking for an evaluation if possible.

[oldlock]

Collector value is very low as it has been taken apart - note the condition of the rivets.

Perfect examples in the past have made reasonable amounts (especially in the US) but padlock collectors want clean examples.

[Gavin]

It's 114 years old.Im not sure it has been taking apart.

[magpie]

Here is a similar, large Chubb padlock. The serial number is no longer visible and the key is missing, but it is Victorian, and is five and three-quarters inches long, with a barrel and curtain, and detector. Unfortunately, it has been opened at some point, possibly to make a replacement key, and so is of little value, apart from to see what is inside. The 'artist' that was let loose on it removed the detector lever, probably to prevent it causing problems in the future. The usual ways to deactivate the detector would include removing the detector spring, bending it out of the way, or removing the pointed part of the detector lever that is caught by the spring. In each case, the lever would remain in place. Removing the detector lever risks allowing the remaining five levers to drift upwards, and out of alignment with their corresponding steps on the replacement key. However, many padlocks of this type, which have been opened to make a key, have had their lever gates opened up to such an extent that the new key looks little more complicated than a blank key. In these cases, lever alignment is probably not so important! The six tines of the lever comb spring, and the bolt stump protruding above the top lever are additional evidence of a missing lever. Compared with the heavy steel shackle, of 13/16" diameter, the rest of the padlock appears lightweight.
As an aside, here is a picture of a Chubb's Second Quality padlock. It has four levers, but no detector. It was locked and without a key, when I bought it. Trying the easy options first, I found that one of the Squire range of pipe padlock keys was an almost perfect replacement key.

[chubbbramah]

The OP might like to offer it on eBay — it might still sell for a price that would repay offering it, if it were clear the seller would ship to USA (estimate the postage to USA). US collector are particularly fond of padlocks and they do have many Chubb padlocks there. That large, clear, photo shows the lock fairly.

Just incidentally, I too know Oldlock personally (he could speak for himself) and he is a friendly and helpful person of enormous experience and knowledge, but for members here with sensitive jobs in the security world and maybe not proficient typists, and coming to the forum only infrequently, sometimes we write more briefly than we might reply orally.

[Gavin]

The OP might like to offer it on eBay — it might still sell for a price that would repay offering it, if it were clear the seller would ship to USA (estimate the postage to USA). US collector are particularly fond of padlocks and they do have many Chubb padlocks there. That large, clear, photo shows the lock fairly.

Just incidentally, I too know Oldlock personally (he could speak for himself) and he is a friendly and helpful person of enormous experience and knowledge, but for members here with sensitive jobs in the security world and maybe not proficient typists, and coming to the forum only infrequently, sometimes we write more briefly than we might reply orally.

Thanks for your help.I wouldn't have a clue to how much it's worth and would welcome anybody's input.The dimensions are 15cm and 10cm and weighs 3.4kg.

[saijinte]

The height is almost 6 inches, The padlock about 2KG . No key.

The front/upper side of the lock,where the first word on top reads: "BY APPOINTMENT TO H.M.THE.KING"