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  1. #21
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    Yes, not surprisingly, Wylk is correct. A few more pictures to take and the lock will be back together, so if there are questions, ask them now. It will be several months before the lock is installed back into the safe, but I am making up a mounting stand so the lock can be checked for proper operation. On the safe , one dial was hard to turn, so checking it on the mounting stand will help to locate where the problem is. And so far it looks like it was a mounting alignment problem in the safe.

  2. #22
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    Seeing that you are going to mount it up, how about making a video of the lock in action? I know it can be a challenge to make one but maybe you can round up a family or neighborhood teenager that could whip it up and edit it in minutes on his phone?

    Most of us could never hope to see one in action.

  3. #23
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    Default Yale 101 1/2

    24 March 2017

    I enjoyed this post on the Yale lock. I have this on my Ely Norris. I have not attempted to change the combination. Both dial are set on 50. How difficult or risky is it?

    Also, have you seen the monster Corliss for sale on Ebay?

    Texaschilli

  4. #24
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    The first Ely-Norris I disassembled had a lock like yours. For the curious, here's another version of the Yale 101 1/2. It's a little different.

    I pulled this one from a cannonball that was slated to be melted down. The best part? When I opened it, it still contained the entire timelock assembly!
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  5. #25
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    Default Yale Y361 spring motor

    12 October 2017

    Mr. MacQueen,

    I would like to ask for your assistance. I removed the Yale Y361 time lock from my Eli Norris cannonball for safekeeping while it was sanded and painted. That turned into a disaster, and the person kept my safe over 540 days then blasted it with no prep.

    The timelock worked perfectly before I pulled it out. Now the spring motor will not retract the locking bolts. Is there a trick to putting the timelock back in like prewinding the spring or something to create tension?

    My winding disc only turns about a quarter turn before engaging the locking pawls of the clocks and there is not enough energy stored in the spring to retract the bolts when the clocks time out. The bolts retract about a third of the way and hang.

    Thanks for any insight,

    Jody Sims

  6. #26
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    Jody, post a picture of the time lock so I can see the position of the mainspring winding disc. Also if you took pictures as you disassembled the time lock post them as well. I am unable to post pictures onthe forum at this time. But to answer your question, yes the mainspring requires a preload to fully retract the bolts. There are other possible causes of your problem, such as are the bolts freely moving in the door bolt holes. Was the slotted pinion gear properly aligned with the mainspring pinion? It has been a couple years since I last worked on one and have to relearn how they work every time. Anyway as long as you are not in a hurry, I am currently cleaning and lubing the movements of a Y-361 and when finished will be checking it for proper operation. As I do this I will photograph the assembly. By then I should be able to post the pictures, but that won't happen real soon.

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