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    Default Old castell padlock pat n 430168

    Femurat
    I was looking at your key and looking at patent drawing your key has shoulder on the blank. The patent drawing show no shoulder on the blank key as be flat. So the bottom pins will not fall out.....Timothy...

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    Hi Timothy,

    thanks for the input. I know. Just need to modify a new blank in a different way. First of all I'll file down the top and bottom of the blank so it's the same size as this one. Then I'll shorten it a little so I can shape the key bow like the original key.

    I hope to have some time later and have a go at it.

    Cheers :)

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    Default Old castell padlock pat n 430168

    Femurat
    Not sure if you have this or not. If still trying to get key blank maybe go here. < https://www.davenport-burgess.com/ > Down load key blank catalog as these key are from England......Timothy.....


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    Thanks for the link, Timothy. I couldn't find a castell key on that website. Maybe downloading the catalog and carefully looking could get me a similar blank. To be honest I don't feel like looking trough a thousand key shapes and profiles just to find a quite similar one.

    To solve the problem of the pins falling down, I filed the shoulder of the key and cut a piece of brass to match the gap between the key and the padlock.


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    Ten got ready to solder it. I heated everything and then applied some solder, then heated some more and added some more solder. I then checked the brass piece was straight and heated it just a few seconds more, then let it cool.


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    I left the brass piece a bit bold so I filed it down later. Then sanded it smooth and finally gave it a quick buff.
    This padlock finally has a properly working key!


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    Cheers :)

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    Default Old castell padlock pat n 430168

    Nice good job Femurat! I know what it like going into thousand of key blank just to find the right key......Timothy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    Nice good job Femurat! I know what it like going into thousand of key blank just to find the right key......Timothy.....
    Silca YA6 is a 4-pin blank which may be hard-to-find, but there are numerous 5-pin versions; some of which are listed here and could be shortened if that helps any:
    • JMA YA-1D, YA-1DS, YA-1DE
    • Silca YA38, YA226
    • Ilco 14KH


    Pete Schifferli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pschiffe View Post
    Silca YA6 is a 4-pin blank which may be hard-to-find, but there are numerous 5-pin versions; some of which are listed here and could be shortened if that helps any:
    • JMA YA-1D, YA-1DS, YA-1DE
    • Silca YA38, YA226
    • Ilco 14KH


    Pete Schifferli
    Thanks for mentioning that, but it won't fit this padlock. I started with a YA6 but had to file it down on many sides to make it fit. For example I filed down the flat side of the blade, opposite of where the bittings are. Then I had to file down the shoulder to fit the moving part of the padlock. If I have an original YA6 at home I'll take a picture of the two keys side to side so you will see what I mean.

    Cheers :)

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    Here is the key with the blank I used. As you can see it was heavily modified.


    Now that I look at it this way, I think I could have done it different.
    I could have filed the tip shorter and filed the bow instead of having to add a piece.
    When I have some time I may try to make a copy of that key...


    Cheers :)

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    Found this on eBay while back. I just thinking post this padlock with the key to give some example of what the key should be. Timothy...
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