Safe with both a combination lock and a keyed lock

[soakes]

Hi all,
I have a safe that I would like to open. It has a combination lock and a keyhole lock as well. The safe is made by M. G. Dyke and Sons. From the Internet searches I have made, it seems unusual to have 2 locks on this sort of safe. Was it standard practice in those days (approximately the 1950s) to have both kinds of lock on this sort of safe?

Does it mean that my efforts to open the safe will be doubly difficult? Not only will I need to crack the combination, but I will need to find a way to open the keyed lock.

Is this too big a challenge for a novice safe-cracker!?

[Yankee]

If you post photos of the safe and fairly close ones of the combination lock that will help us help you. To answer your question about opening it up, yes it will be quite difficult for a novice. We can help identify what you have for locks on it, but as far as how to attack it, this isn't the place for that kind of information.

[Tom Gordon]

It is possible that the keylock will not be locked but somebody will have turned the dial and thus locked that lock.
I think it most unlikely though that you will get this safe open yourself and long experience says that there is unlikely to be anything left in it by previous owners. Therefore it will cost you hundreds of dollars to get it opened , when you would be better off buying a modern safe with that money. Sorry!

[soakes]

Thanks for the replies. I realise I could get a professional to open it. I also realise there is probably nothing in it. I also know that the brand of combination lock is notoriously difficult to crack.

Nevertheless, I want to try.

Generally though, is it unusual to have 2 locks on a safe?

For those interested, the safe is by Dyke and Sons (Richmond, Victoria, Australia) and the lock is an old Manifoil. I say old, meaning it predates the much more common Mk4. I can find very little information about this earlier lock.

[soakes]

[kwoswalt99]

Generally though, is it unusual to have 2 locks on a safe?

No, it's fairly common.
What is in the keyhole?

[soakes]

No, it's fairly common.

OK. It's just that none of my image searches for Dyke and Son safes showed any with a combination lock.

What is in the keyhole?

A broken-off pencil. It was like that when I found it; I assure you I didn't insert it hoping it would be a suitable key. ;-)

[kwoswalt99]

OK. It's just that none of my image searches for Dyke and Son safes showed any with a combination lock.



A broken-off pencil. It was like that when I found it; I assure you I didn't insert it hoping it would be a suitable key. ;-)

I thought you were talking about safes in general. What do you want to know about the lock?

[Huw Eastwood]

Years later ... my safe is still securely locked.

Hello again Soakes, bearing in mind it's nearly 3 years since members assisted you with this safe, and you still can't open it yourself, I'm not sure what you're expecting us lot to say or do now. I'd have thought the 2 choices are clearly live with it locked in your garage, or pay someone else to get it open like you mentioned. Your own quote below from January 2016 says it all really.

Thanks for the replies. I realise I could get a professional to open it. I also realise there is probably nothing in it. I also know that the brand of combination lock is notoriously difficult to crack.

Nevertheless, I want to try.

[Tom Gordon]

I think it fair to say that you will not be at all likely to manipulate the combination open. An auto dialler is an expensive and uncommon tool that could take easily 30 hours to open it -but the owner won't want to leave his expensive tool in your garage for a few days.