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    I know this is supposed to be about historical locks but does anybody have anything to say about Sargent & Greenleaf double bitted safe locks please?

    If I am breaking the rules and the Mod deletes this, I would quite understand.

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    Of course it's historical it (the 6870 series) goes way back to the 1980s.

    Here are a couple of brochures -- http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/prima.pdf and http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/C...brochure_a.pdf

    A review -- http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/FAS_lock_article.pdf

    I have no particular opinion of my own.

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    Great locks and as a relatively inexpensive 'all-rounder' very difficult to beat.
    Only ever used to see and use 2 variants here in the UK, don't know if there were any others.
    The commonest was the 6804 which was the basic VdS1 lock (7 lever if I remember right), and the slightly thicker cased 6880 which was VdS2 and 9 lever.

    The fact they had slim key bits designed to fit down a combination spindle hole and foot-printed to an S&G or LaGard combo was brilliant. Customers who were fed up bending down on hands and knees entering combinations could finally kiss the whole combo nightmare goodbye. The changeable function was also a good feature but probably used less in practice than as a selling point.

    Always found they needed the the correct escutcheon guides fitting accurately on the door front, especially the longer keys passing through thicker doors. Most problems that I encountered were down to poor alignment allowing the keys to wear the die-cast alloy. But then you've got that with any long safe keys working through thick doors, Mauer, Wittkopp etc aren't really any different. Needless to say they're not of 1970s Kromer Novum quality or durability, but for the price and convenience of a quick combo lock conversion I found them great.

    In fact I still use a couple 6804s on my workshop safes- at only 4 inches long the short length keys are bearable on your everyday bunch of keys, so overall they get the from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylk View Post
    Of course it's historical it (the 6870 series) goes way back to the 1980s.

    Here are a couple of brochures -- http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/prima.pdf and http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/C...brochure_a.pdf

    A review -- http://wheelpost.com/Documents_PDF/FAS_lock_article.pdf

    I have no particular opinion of my own.
    I tried to access those but got this message:

    Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access /Documents_PDF/CLOCK_Lock_brochure_a.pdf on this server.
    Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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    Huh, weird. This might be some tricky "don't link to my documents" trick on the main web page. Try going to http://wheelpost.com and go down to "Key Operated Safe Locks" and click on those links.

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    I also noticed after getting the Forbidden error, if I click the browser "reload" button (Internet Explorer 9 in my case) it loads.

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    System here is not working well. Anyway I managed to access that so thank you.

    My only objection to them is how tacky the escutcheons are!

    I suppose if you were, for example, a paymaster you could be issued with a key when first commissioned and use that key at every unit where you served provided they were all equipped with these locks. Even make all the safes to pass!

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