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  1. #1
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    Default Key made for a 4 Johnson "Cleveland" Farebox??

    I obtained a Johnson "Cleveland" Farebox that did not have the key with it. Is it possible to have a key made for a Chicago 4 Way Lock? Anyone familiar with this that can assist me? I would like to keep everything original on this fare box!

    I have taken this lock to two different places and neither of them were able to make a key for it. The second party I took this too has been working on it for some time now and it seems that he has loves the challenge! Great guy to deal with but feel bad that he has spent so much time on it!

    The issue appears to be that this is not a true "crucifixion" key. If you look at the two slots at the top of the keyhole they're longer then the bottom ones. Anyone have any experience in making keys for these?
    zoHahDt 1

    I have two of these, one for the farebox and then there is one on the inside "cashbox". I am assuming the locks are two different keys.

    Even if someone has this lock and key for sale I would be interested!

    Please email me and thanks!

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    Default Key made

    If is open could please take picture of inside. Could give some idea of what ir look like. Those kind of lock are hard to work on...Timothy. .

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    Default Additional pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy View Post
    If is open could please take picture of inside. Could give some idea of what ir look like. Those kind of lock are hard to work on...Timothy. .
    Timothy, appreciate the post. I do not have the lock in front of me as it's still with the gentleman that is attempting to make a key for me. I asked him if he would take a picture and send it to me. Not sure if he has the capability or not but if he does I will post it here. Kills me as I know I took two pictures, one of the front and one of the back, before I sent the lock out. I found the front one (below) but must have deleted the one of the back!

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    At one time I had around a dozen of these locks from SF Trolley fareboxes. Half were made similar to desk locks an the other half live cam locks. I did mange to make a key for each type and luckily each type was KA. The process required destruction of one lock of each type.

    I found them impossible for me to pick. If your locksmith is successful he ha my admiration.
    BBE.

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    Default My admiration too....

    Quote Originally Posted by BBE View Post
    At one time I had around a dozen of these locks from SF Trolley fareboxes. Half were made similar to desk locks an the other half live cam locks. I did mange to make a key for each type and luckily each type was KA. The process required destruction of one lock of each type.

    I found them impossible for me to pick. If your locksmith is successful he ha my admiration.
    BBE.
    To this guy's credit he has was able to pick the lock and the lock is now in the unlocked position, however he has not been successful in being able to make a key for it. He said he has gone through numerous blanks all to no avail! I keep telling him if he is tire of working on it to send it back and he advises me "it's about the challenge at this point"!

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    Default Additional pictures added

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    Default Bueller ...

    umping to see if anyone has any experience with these locks!

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    So is the problem getting key blanks or figuring the actual key cuts? If the lock has been picked to the open position, it looks like one could remove the screw that holds the tang on the back and possably remove the lock core. If the core will come out, one should be able to measure the pins hights and spacings and transfer those dimensions to a key blank.
    Mark A. Billesbach

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