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    Default Taylor safe & other safes

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug MacQueen View Post
    John, your lock looks too small to have been the original and it is highly unlikely a time lock was installed. Unless S&G made a special for Taylor I would say the No. 4 model would be it. Can you post some pictures of other safes you've done? Doug
    Doug if you have the dimensions and or a picture of a No. 4 I would appreciate it. I have done many Diebold banker safes -the most of banker safes. One picture is of a Herring Hall Marvin and the other two are of a Halls with its premier lock the Halls was stripped and left to rust when I got it and it is the smallist bankers safe I have done.

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    Default Pictures of Safes

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    Default Safe pictures

    I had a problem with a pictureClick image for larger version. 

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    Very nice John, how long have been doing this? Here is a cast iron No. 3 fire proof safe lock that may be similar to the No. 4 Burglary model but I am not positive on that. What were the screw holes in the safe when you got it. I see a triangular pattern typical of some timelocks but there would not be a spindle hole for those models. And the snubber entry holes in S&G timelocks are either too high or too low. Did you drill some of the holes? The dimensions of the No. 4 burglary are in a previous post with the mag and auto pictures I sent. Doug
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    Default S & G No. 4

    The S&G may fit depending on where the housing ends up. I have rebuilt safes as a side line for about 30 years. For about 12 years now I have focused on antique safes, and bankers safes are the most interesting to me with their presishon -workmanship and high quality locks. This little safe is a converted Diebold interior chest from a very large safe that was going to the scrap yard. I turned it on its side and fitted it with these Diebold locks as a good way to show them.Click image for larger version. 

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    Very creative. And a lot of work. Do you keep them all or sell? Have you been finding these chests in your area. i am surprised to see a Taylor chest made it all the way to NM. Doug

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    Default Antique Safes

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug MacQueen View Post
    Very creative. And a lot of work. Do you keep them all or sell? Have you been finding these chests in your area. i am surprised to see a Taylor chest made it all the way to NM. Doug
    I buy the safes from Crags list Ebay safe dealers ect. The Taylor was brought to my attention by a friend of mine in Canada it was on a Canadion version of Crags list in Onterio I had a safe co. pick it up prep it for shipping and then used a shipping broker to get it shipped to me, it cost 600 for the safe 650 for shipping 250 for the safe co. and 275 for customs and the inport tatif. I wanted it because it is the smallest J & J Taylor I or anyone I know has ever seen. I sell most of the safes I restore ,I get a lot of satisfaction out of bringing these wonderfull antiques back to a state of beauty. They come from all over the country and end up all over the country. I make money restoring them but not a lot considering all of the work it takes. This is a MacNeal & Urban that I am finishing up it needs the nickle re done and the lettering, it is made a lot like the safe you showed me with the Sargent automatic. Thanks for the pictures.

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    John

    Thanks for sharing these pictures, it is always a pleasure to see such beautiful work.

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    Default painted safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Parautoptic View Post
    John

    Thanks for sharing these pictures, it is always a pleasure to see such beautiful work.
    Thanks for the complement . I enjoy painting and detailing these old marvels of workmanship, the stripping and sandblasting not so much. This is a Diebold automatic safe, I think they look a bit odd without a combination dial on the front.Click image for larger version. 

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