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    Default Experts - Can you help me identify this lock?

    Hello all, I cam here looking for some help.

    I'm not a lock guy, (nobody's perfect) I'm a cabinetmaker and furniture maker. I am working on a reproduction of an old tool chest and I am hoping to identify the lock used. I've enclosed the three best pictures of it I have. It appears to be a full-mortise combination box/chest lock from around (give or take 20 years) the turn of the 20th century (I could be off but that seems to be when the chest was made)

    I found this site while searching for expert advice and you guys seem to be an amazing resource. If any of you experts can assist me in identifying and possibly locating a lock like this I will be very much in your debt.

    Sincerely yours,
    Nick Appert
    Appert Woodcraft

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    Nick, can't really tell much from your image but you apparently require a combination chest lock. Yours could have been made by any number of manufacturers but one thing I am certain of is that no such lock is extant. Attached is an image of an Eagle No. 2001 from their 1938 catalog, long obsolete and out-of-business. If you want something functionally equivalent, consider a Combi-Cam lock with hook bolt, see link:
    http://www.combi-cam.com/

    Pete Schifferli
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    There might be someone that might have one. I will PM you the name and number.

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    or you could use a box lock which would have a key instead of the dial -they are available new in a variety of sizes.

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    Nick, I agree finding a key lock would be far easier than a dial model. But if you are determined to stay with the dial, I could make you a brass lock to fit, utilizing a small old dial and ring. Or convert an existing key lock (if you can find one that fits) into a dial combination version. That is one sweet tool chest, by the way. Doug

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    I would love to have a chest like that!
    Good old quality...

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    A perfect example of tight tolerances and fine craftsmanship in wood. Quite a testament (and resume) to the skills of its maker. Are the white inlays mother of pearl or a white wood?

    If you don't get something from Dean's contact or find one elsewhere, I think Doug's idea/offer to fabricate is the next best way to go. Staying true to form on the craftsmanship and heart of the project might have made the original owner smile. My 2 pennies worth - please, keep the change.
    Best of luck with it.
    Bill

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    here is a selection of used keylocks found at the Cleveland Key Shop. The length of the faceplate on the smallest is about 2" and the biggest at 4". Doug
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    I'd be surprised if it is a mortice lock. As Cleveland shows, there are numerous half-mortice key boxlocks of various sizes. The comlock should only have a small hole for the spindle, so a keylock could be fitted with little cosmetic work needed - a nice brass plate should serve.

    Somebody might be able to adapt a com padlock mechanism to a boxlock case, but the new linkplate needed might not be so neat.

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    If you are being obvious that what you are making is a modern version, it would be fair to use a modern lock. Several of us have suggested keylocks. In Britain, the epitome of quality would have been a Bramah lock, and you should not need to wait too long to find an old Bramah boxlock for sale - they are not vanishingly rare.

    However, you could buy a new Bramah box lock. They are available in brass (polished or lacquered) or chrome finish.

    Turn-of-the-century US keylocks would have been typically flat steel lever lock with nozzle, from Corbin or Eagle. There are probably a few of them around in the US still. You might buy a cheap box to salvage the lock from it?

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