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    Default info on antique Herring Farrel Banker's safe please...

    Hello everyone...any information on this safe would be greatly appreciated. It hasn't been delivered yet so these picts are just picts of picts on my computer screen...i can post better ones when the safe gets here if need be. It's measurements are 58 inches tal, 32 wide, and 28 deep. Thanks a bunch!!
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    Love to get better pics of the bolt work and the locks inside and out. Nice find!

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    Matt, these may help with the paint. Also do a search on here for Herring Farrel. There is another nice chest with original paint stuck in the Misc. Question section. Doug
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    Hi Matt, Looks like you have you have your work cut out for you on this one. A nice looking safe! Can't wait to see what to see what it looks like when your done.
    I took this excerpt from a Terry Andreasen reply.
    "FARREL–HERRING SAFE COMPANY 1869-1885, Philadelphia, PA
    1861 merger between Herring & Farrel, but they kept the names separate until 1869. The two factories remained in Philadelphia and New York. Safes manufactured at the Philadelphia plant were labeled as Farrel-Herring and safes manufactured at the New York plant were labeled as Herring-Farrel.

    In 1885, the concerns were consolidated under the Herring label, though some safes were still labeled as Farrel occassionally. In 1892, the Herring Safe & Lock Company, including the Farrel Safe works, merged with "Hall's Safe & Lock Company" and the "Marvin Safe Company", to form "Herring-Hall-Marvin Safe Company". HHM lasted until they were acquired by Diebold in 1959. During a subsequent "anti-monopoly" suit brought against Diebold, they were ordered to close down or sell HHM and the York Safe company.

    Ok, now you have a brief history of the safe companies. If your safe has the Farrel-Herring logo on the Castor supports, the safe would be from the 1869-1885 period. Accurately IDing, ageing or evaluating the safe will require photos."

    There is also a great picture on this site of what appears to be original artwork on a similar model.
    herring farell safe

    Hope that is some help. Bill

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    Thanks a bunch Doug and Bill...it is greatly appreciated!! When it gets here Doug you'll have to check it out...i'll let you know.

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    Thanks Matt. Bill, you may want to tell Terry that he might want to amend his history of Herring Farrel a wee bit. This chest is from a 1867 catalog. Doug
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    Good eye Doug! Thanks for the correction.

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    That is a very interesting triple door. Was that body construction common in 1867 and was it cast?

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    Almost all burglar chests at this time were built up of laminated plates, with just a couple exceptions. However, Herring did include hard cast plates of "Franklinite' iron which was high in manganese, very similar to Speigeleisen. The small Marvin of the 1860's and the large Corliss cast cannonball safes of the 1870's were the two notable exceptions to this laminated style. Doug

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    Doug...thanks for the picts of the black one...there are some simularities between the two...see ya soon. Matt (Nahum 1:7)

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