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Have recently been asked to make a key for the pictured Model A steering wheel lock. It's a Sargent 4-pin lock which takes an Ilco 1010B blank, which I have. It looks like it will be a PITA to put the springs and top pins in once the plug is removed. They will have to be put in 1 at a time until all 4 sets are in. The front of the plug is stamped G182. Anybody who has done a similar lock, please advise.
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Haven't done one but that's screaming out to be impressioned tbh bitbuster, it's only 4-pin and you've got the blanks, You'll have a key in an hour or so without the pita disassembly and leaving everything intact.
Yes, I know it can be impressioned but I want to go a different route. Thought someone may have removed plug and generated a key that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huw Eastwood
Not found in old Reed General Code Book, I agree with Huw that it should be fairly easy to impression.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitbuster
Pete Schifferli
Here are the depths and spaces, pre-cut a blank to all #0 depths on your code machine to aid in seeing the impression marks:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pschiffe
Depths: 0=.173, 1=.286, 3=.261, 4=.248, 5=.236, 6=.223, 7=.221, 8=.198, 9=.186
Spaces: 1=.216, 2=.372, 3=.528, 4=.684
HPC Card: X45
DSD#: 334
Pete Schifferli
If you don't have to disassemble the lock, it saves the risk of what you might find out once it is in bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pschiffe
If it is working and easily impressions, that is both the easiest and best way.
if you can't do that yourself and refuse to pay someone else, then you will have to do it a riskier way.
It could be four pins but sometime there a five pins to hold the plug inside the lock. Also as looking the picture the hole for the pins only if you can turn the lock until you see the pins inside the lock and the pin may come out. Like the American Padlock cylinder. Note keep this in mind that the bottom pins may pop up in the plug. Not sure but there may be screw or pin on the side to hold the cylinder. If can turn cylinder both way to find it. Per picture... Timothy...
Bitbuster
The one picture you said black dot for set screw that goes into the cylinder. Have you try to take that set screw out. That could be what holding the cylinder in. If the screw does come out went it unlock to pull he cylinder out be careful that it may have spring load inside pop out.....Timothy.....
I know I can impression a key for this. I choose not to go that route. My question is/was has anyone pulled the plug on one, generate a key, and then put everything back. My concern is getting the top pins and springs back in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy
https://imgur.com/a/K7qVp
There are some lock just about the one you have. I use what they call Shim if you can get it inside of the cylinder than pull out and be sure hold on to the shim. If not have to take it out slow one by one so the spring will not pop out. To put back in use the shim on top of the hole where the spring are and slowing push the cylinder back in. Hoping this would help out and maybe someone else may help. Not sure as I know you have information from another forum which not a member of them. Maybe they can explain better of what I said. I do know Jeffmoss26 member other forum maybe can help out more......Timothy....
Maybe this may work but I don't have the lock to do this. If you already got the set screw out. See if you can turn the cylinder to per picture and maybe you will see the hole with spring. Just do it very slow until you can see all four spring and be ready to put your finger over these hole to keep the spring from popping out. This may be the way they put the pins and spring in there but like I said not sure....Timothy....
Bitbuster
Have no head word from you. I notice on another forum you complete job....Nice Work....Timothy.....
Yes, I only finished the 'project' in the past few days. Will post pics here soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy
I could have impressioned a key but I chose to disassemble the unit. It was filthy.
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Nice job of finding away to take it apart and putting it all back together.....Timothy.....
Thanks. I'm so glad I went with the disassembly over just impressioning. Besides the lock being so filthy, I learned a few things from the whole process. The owner said he'll recommend me to his Model A-T buddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy
I can understand about disassembly. There are some lock that will and some not. We can all learn of how some of these old lock are put together and put them back together in case to repair any lock. Beside I think it a lot of fun to do it.....Timothy......