Curious on age of this class E small safe

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23-01-18, 08:05 AM
ewhitaker

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Curious on age of this class E small safe

Hello all. So glad to have joined this group. Looking forward to many hours learning about old safes and locks. Anyway, I just bought this yesterday for $50 on a local buy/sell site. It measures 18" x 14" tall x 15". Five sides are 1" (25mm) steel and the face and door are 1.5". I love the beefy hardware and bolt system.

I can't find any serial number list online to date it's manufacture. It uses a Diebold lock and on the body and door are stamped 1404 and a number 1 at some distance away. I would love to read your educated guesses on age and other interesting details.
23-01-18, 09:44 PM
Cepasaccus

Wow, great find! What is its weight?
23-01-18, 09:50 PM
ewhitaker

I used a steel plate calculator and guessed on the lock system and hardware, and arrived at around 430 pounds, or just about 200 kilos. It was no fun to move with just two people.
23-01-18, 09:59 PM
Cepasaccus

I wish here would be safes like this!
07-04-18, 06:06 AM
ewhitaker

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Just discovered the relocker works. I was told it was missing. Maybe this helps identify.
08-04-18, 03:05 PM
T Davison

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Mosler

The safe is made by Mosler for Diebold. The color is olive smooth in the 1940 line of Mosler chests. The lock is one of two used in that series of chest.
1. KC-1 or the 7030, 7030R. Here is the small style of chest.
Attachment 19834 Attachment 19835
Enjoy Tim
08-04-18, 03:49 PM
Cepasaccus

Oh so cute and fluffy!

Are the bolt going thru from left to right? So when closing the door the bolts are a lot behind the right side and when locking the bolts move to the left?
08-04-18, 06:04 PM
Chubby

I like those "second bite of the cherry" arrangements for a dead aed. They prevent successful attacks using a preloaded handle.
08-04-18, 06:21 PM
ewhitaker

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Originally Posted by Cepasaccus

Oh so cute and fluffy!

Are the bolt going thru from left to right? So when closing the door the bolts are a lot behind the right side and when locking the bolts move to the left?

You are correct.
08-04-18, 06:50 PM
ewhitaker

Thanks a lot for the information, Tim. It has an antique look that i would have assumed put it in the 100 year old range. Now i know! If you were in the Seattle area I'd buy you a cup of coffee and a doughnut.
08-04-18, 06:53 PM
ewhitaker

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I like those "second bite of the cherry" arrangements for a dead aed. They prevent successful attacks using a preloaded handle.

Would you elaborate? Sounds interesting.
08-04-18, 08:37 PM
T Davison

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Here is a page from moslers label book on Mosler burglary resistive chests label.
enjoy Tim
09-04-18, 03:23 AM
Chubby

There are either 2 interference points for the aed (relocker) to catch on. So if it misses the first, it will catch on the second.