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Surely the earliest security was 'strongboxes'? The 'receptacle safe from fire and theft' was due to Marr's fireproof lining patent of 1834, I submit. I date the safe from that. Logically, 'plate...
Afaik, all or most was bought by another collector.
I used to go to those. What happended to his collection ?
What would the people here consider the oldest safes in the world? Hobnail Safes were banded iron riveted on hardwood normally oak - there is one at Breamore in Hampshire, 17th/18th century.
Only just found this thread. Around the turn of the century, Yale began exporting a small-case cylinder rim latch to Britain. Several British makers copied this, as the early patents had expired....
You're right! I wasn't quite sure i had the name right; John Oldcorn was somebody else, I met in another life long ago. No doubt others will remember John Holden's gatherings, and his collections...
It was 'John Holden' Richard. I attended 1 or 2 meetings back in the day (it was a long way from Bournemouth) - there is at least one attendee left who now runs the MLA Heritage Rooms! Tommy restored...
i agree with you that nothing used to be properly secure but if you think in more general terms, about strongboxes that were more than merely wooden boxes, the hobnails were a progression from wooden...
Oldest safes in the world