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    Default Help to I D this padlock please

    Hello all I have been asked by a collecter to ID a padlock for him, I must admit its one I'd not seen before, but have an inkling that its possibly an old American one? By old I just mean pre or post WWI. I don't know if it a pin or pipe key type as have not seen it in the flesh yet.
    Any help would be most welcome.
    Regards to all Ant
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    With wording like that I would guess British or a British Colony.

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    A dragon is a popular symbol in Wales but I don't think that either the design of the padlock or the wording makes it likely to be British.

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    The top of the padlock reminds me of a Cotterill padlock, but I've never seen that design or name on one.
    Last edited by Tom Gordon; 10-05-12 at 08:58 AM.
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    The shape of the top is like a cotterill, the hole is like a cotterill or a pancake lock but both of them are sliding shackles rather than hinging and dont have a normal lever mechanism's key.
    I am guessing Indian.
    Last edited by Tom Gordon; 10-05-12 at 09:00 AM.

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    Default The Padlock?

    Just looking at it again. Is the shackle hinge pin being on the left make any difference to being manufactured in Britain or not?

    Perhaps it was made here (UK) and shipped to one part of our former empire ,
    thanks for all your sugestions so far.
    What about the date of manufacture am I about right on that?
    Regards to all Anthony

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    Tom, look again at his first picture of the shackle/bail. It looks like it goes all the way around on the right side. I kind of wonder if it doesn't go straight up like the Cotteral? I wonder if what we assume is a hinge rivet on the top left isn't just a stop for the opening on the bail? Wish we had a few more pics from different angles. Mark
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    How old are the pancake locks? Did Cotteril copy a bit? Did some colonial copy back again?

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    Tom, I'm not really sure when the first pancake lock was made.I'm sure if one had the time he could do a patent search. However I know that Miller lock had the Champion 6 lever pancake lock listed in their 1885 catalog so I would guess sometime in the early 1880's
    Mark A. Billesbach

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    I still don't have a pancake lock yet... They are kinda cheap on ebay though but I always miss to bid

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