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  1. 03-05-08 09:28 AM #1
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    Default Padlocks from old shed Moreton Langley + Hand Made Brass

    I was in an old mans shed today & found box with this assortment in it (there were also lots of FAT black spiders but I left them in the shed)
    I am putting up 2 pics first, the small group were just washed in hot soapy water, the large group are untouched ~ no lock is shown twice.

    The small brass heart shape lock with round dust cover is 1 11/16" tall, stamped "MORETON & LANGLEY" (on the LH in pic.) It has the word PATENT five times. Once at centre top, twice on cover & twice around the hidden keyhole. Also on the dust cover is a crown with "VR" beneath, which I assume is Victoria Regina. I could only find one reference to Moreton & Langley on the net & it was just a pic of a lock.

    There is a square brass padlock in the large group shot, just to the right of the large brass lock (bottom) The brass area on this small padlock is 1 1/4" tall including shoulder x 1 3/16" wide x 3/8" deep. It has HAND MADE LEVER PATENT & the no. 16064

    The last two locks are approx. same size as the Moreton & Langley. Both have a "sun" looking logo stamped on them. Twice on the body, one lock has the same logo on the dust cover, the other lock has a different stamp on the dust cover and also has the word "SECURE" twice but the C is back to front.

    I know unmarked locks are very difficult to ID but I'm hoping someone may be able to help.
    Thanks........momma
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  2. 04-05-08 12:32 AM #2
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    Your hand made lock patent 16064 is not a US utility or design patent but seems to be an English patent from 1886 according to the link. You can find info about some of the others there too.
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    http://www.bl.uk/collections/patents/history.html
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  3. 04-05-08 09:32 AM #3
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    Default Re: Padlocks from old shed Moreton Langley + Hand Made Brass

    Thanks BBE, I should have mentioned that I had visited that site but got confused due to the dates EG: 1884 ~ 17,110; 1885 16,101; 1886 17,169
    Numbers are up & down.....
    Unfortunately none of the other padlocks have numbers on them.........momma
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    English patent numbers of this period do not run in order year after year. The numbering began again at the start of each year .. Thus to find a specific patent you need to know the Year & the patent number.
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    Default Re: Padlocks from old shed Moreton Langley + Hand Made Brass

    Thanks oldlock ~ that makes it even harder!!!

    oldlock if you are still around could you have a look at the 1st pic, at top right is a drawer or cupboard lock. This has a double keyhole, holes are at right angles & share the top section. Is this so it can be used as a cupboard or drawer lock ` in a vertical or horizontal position?? I have the key & it is working "2 Secure Lever Jacksons Maker Launceston" Some interesting keys too. What does "paracentric" mean??
    .....momma

    PS I live in Australia
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    Default Re: Padlocks from old shed Moreton Langley + Hand Made Brass

    Quote Originally Posted by momma
    Thanks oldlock ~ that makes it even harder!!!

    oldlock if you are still around could you have a look at the 1st pic, at top right is a drawer or cupboard lock. This has a double keyhole, holes are at right angles & share the top section. Is this so it can be used as a cupboard or drawer lock ` in a vertical or horizontal position?? I have the key & it is working "2 Secure Lever Jacksons Maker Launceston" Some interesting keys too. What does "paracentric" mean??
    .....momma

    PS I live in Australia
    Yes, the lock can be used for either a cupboard or drawer. Jacksons still make locks in the same factory.

    Paracentric means that the projections in the keyway broaching overlap or pass each other - making picking harder.
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