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Thanks. That was my idea too from the start.

Yes, I've seen those in a lot of Eagle locks. BBE.

That isn't a key hole shape I've seen on India locks and they don't usually have end/case wards either. I don't think it was made in India. BBE.

The problem is that even if you know of the company and that they sold safes which they put plates on, you have no idea if it is a safe plate or a...

Interesting, never seen a protector version of the euronovum before.

Cheers Grayhair

Here is a line-by-line translation from a website. The PDF does not appear in Preview, hope it makes to the thread.

Thanks again for your time and response. Adding pictures was the least I could do, but I have been strugling to get more one. Yet I have quiet some...

i try making the keys without disassembling them,works most of the time. As far as taking them apart,i think everyone has a different outlook on it....

it might be neutral ? the ones that i have seen for masterkeying usually have two gates in more than one of the levers allowing for several...

It looks like someone has had that lock apart to fit the key. I'm not so sure either is Indian origin. The Indian keys typically look like the bit...

/QUOTE] In the photo above I couldn't help noticing that the second tumbler from the bottom appears to be a neutral depth, or universal depth, do...

I have been noticing an up swing of pancake padlocks being sold on Ebay that clearly have been taken apart. Is the skill of making keys for these...

last set of pic's. was not sure if i could have posted all at one time, last 5 ...

more pic's, i might have took to many.

It's a shame Adrian doesn't join in anymore, my chances of translating that lot from German are zero and I'm curious to know if those are still...

Well another big surprise in that they've actually showed up a few times in the past. http://www.antique-locks.com/showthread.php/2708-Acme-Safe If...

That'll teach me to look and post in a rush..

Wow, nice to see another one. I figured for sure that this was a retrofit. Notice it has the same security rating tag. I guess that is the telltale.

Protector is still on the website ?

Gary, just had a look at the LEBTIG website for Kromer, and yes they still make a Protector- but only in the EuroNovum , so euro footprint only....

Scott, Is it known how long before D. K. Miller received their 1st patent on the push-key 6 lever pancake locks were they making them and selling...

Bit of a shocker what they bid for it...but at least it had Sydney spelt right. Here's a screenshot in all its glory for future reference

Well I never....seeing that's amazed me even more really, since but for the exception of both the dials matching on the second one, the styles of...

Looks like York did produce this model safe as another one turned up. Identical other than this one still has the original lock. Pretty cool in my...

Kiara, try and upload your photo here as it makes the thread more reliable and complete, not only for clarification for members like safeman who are...

mine looks pretty much the same but there are a few differences. If it's ok I could email you a picture? Not sure of the height (I'm currently away...